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Were the Nordic peoples originally Canaanites?
Subject: Newton Attatchment
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:00:00 +0000
Hi Darrell I am delighted to have to say that I have got the attatchment that Larry sent me right here and have found an easier way of doing it from hotmail. Coincidently I have found some very interesting info regarding the "Sweedish Indians" (Were they Caananites). Gustav Olsen in his book reveals that indeed they were the original inhabitants (The "Incredible Nordic Origins") and that the scull shapes have the typicle "Neanderthaloid" Characteristics of the Brow ridge and are thus described as "Brachesephalus" and not Modern Scandinavians . Mike and Dan I have read this book and would advise everyone to do a google search and simply click on The Incredible Nordic Origins which reveals that the Laps and the Fins were it's original inhabitants who were later driven back North to the sea coasts. Darrell can you please let me know if you have got the attatchment which I promised you. Many thanks John
Having it in electronic form should be nice.
I will check out the book also - sound great.
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:33:53 +0000
Nice One Darrell and indeed exelent and Many thanks for letting me know. I have a feeling Darrell that Larry's work on newton could be based on that of Bill Cooper's; but he is keeping me in suspense at the moment. Can't blame him for that. It'll be interesting to see what he has to say when he finishes the book next year. I'm studying at the moment the "Incredible Nordic Origins" by S Gusten Olsen. He says King Eric came to
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:01:52 +0000
2234/2233 BC is the date for the founding of
One serious problem with this (for me) would be that my model has
A speculation would be that the Neanderthals (which we suspect came in Ciocol(sp) group) spread around those areas of northern
So what background did Eric have (father - lineage) (CoMagon)? Arriving in 2129 BC (as a mature leader) would suggest that he was a 6th or 7th generation (from Noah) with a expected life expectancy of 230 years or so (unless killed in battle).
I have been studying an interest theory on travel across western
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:47:54 +0000
Hi Darrell I have the book by Gusten Olsen who by the way is an AngloIsraelist (I should'nt keep using these labels about authors) but his book is very interesting and shows on one of the pages what appears to be the skull of a Neanderthal. It is what I call "Longheaded" and has the typical Neanderthal Browridge Characteristics. I think he calls these people the "Swedish Indians" and are of caananite stock. The book is the only link I have at the moment but will keep you updated on the web; to see what I can find. He does'nt give a date when the abouriginals reached
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:58:56 +0000
Here is the only link I found which told anything.
The Gothic annals claim that the "
Note: 762 yrs is obiously using the LXX - to converted to Ussher's: Serug born in 2185 BC less 95 yrs = 2090 BC vs 2129 BC which is 62 years after the T of Babel. Never the less close. I had first assumed 7th generation contemporary with Serug when I saw the date of arrival.
In the History
of Denmark, page 39, section five, we read: "both
Further thoughts on Eric
Subject: Newton and the Alogonquian Amerindians
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:02:44 +0000
Darrell did Newton date the Algonquan Indians who were supposedly Canaanites to 1504 BC am 2500 supposedly despersed from Canaan at this time? This date to me makes no sense as it places Joshua in 1504 BC before he was even bourne and supposedly happened 844 yrs after the flood and this is very similar to Bill Cooper's date for Partholan placed later at 864 after the flood. Thus I am sugesting here that even the top date of 1504 BC Is LXX linked in some way. It seems to me that Olsen is contradicting himself when he says the earliest people to arrive in
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:30:29 +0000
You asked "Darrell did
I don't have Olsens material, so I can not comment. However, 62 years after the dispersion and in the time of Serug match up well. I always look for confirmational material. So any mention of 1504 BC seems in error.
Also, never take interupted dates serious. We always have to find dates in respect to events in order to get a reasonable date. So many different chronologies, who can guess which they used. Until we know how the date was derived, we can not use it.
I should have been clearer about this reference. The account of Gathelus' trip through a sea east of
1) As I mentioned before, Irish and Scotish ancient history has three areas of confusion, but if they are all lined up and compared - via Genealogy, one can make sense of the different confused accounts and separate truth from confusion. We must be careful, popular names are often repeated in history.
The confusion accepted by this article was that Gathelus was the same person as Miledh (Mile).
Via the Genealogies, it can be shown that they are clearly two different people, Gathelus at the time of Moses and Miledh at the time of David and Solomon. The confusion comes in because both are said to have married Scota, princess of
2. Then somehow they suggest Gathelus was the son of Cecrops (who founded
c) but more importantly, the Irish and Scotish chronicles give the genealogies and Gaythelos or Gaedal Glas or Gathelus is the son of Neolos, or Niul, or Nel (Neolhus or Nembricht) who was the son of Fenya or Feinius Farsaid or Foenius Farsaid who was the son of Ewan or Ewan or Eogan etc etc etc back to Noah. Additionally, Gathelus' son was Iber (Eber) or Eber Scot.
d) wereas this tale of Scota relates to Ith son of Breogan (uncle of Miledh) during the 1040 BC time frame.
So this is very poor name identification which conflicts with all ancient accounts of the Genealogies.
Conclusion: Because of the misidentification of Gathelos with Miledh, pieces of one story are mixed with pieces of the other. The stone arrived in
This would be my first opinion without deeper study. Got to go.
Reviewing the article again yesterday gave me a clue I had overlooked.
The Problem: English ancient history is conflicting to a degree. We have 3 major claims to the ancient British (
Clue: In the article it stated that after Miledh died, Ith, while leading 30 ships toward
Theory 1: If Brutus arrived in
Theory 2: Brittan Mael would have been in the 13th generation after Noah (his decent is given from Noah down). According to my genealogy spreadsheet I had him place as arriving in
Theory 3: More research on the Cambrians is needed, but I have not seen a clear claim by them.
If the synchronism of Miledh and Gwrgant is correct (I must see the ancient texts to confirm), then Brutus of the lineage of
Thus I will be investigating this over the next few days. It is wonderful to find information which might resolve conflicting assertions.